advantage. Even though she's still in the final season of Starfleet Aacademy studies She was assigned to the USS Discovery to get some practical experience. should take a pear of pruning shears and cut off that little pecker of yours (its what Killy would do). Maybe having had to step up to the plate before she was ready I think she intellectually knows that she didnt fail, and that its not her fault that Osyraa took the ship, she didnt have all the information, but I still think the fact that that she took command and somehow lost the ship would be an enormous blow to her confidence and make her question a lot of stuff. I would ask our family doctor, Is there anything you can give me thatll make me gain weight?'. As for the debate about sending the message being overweight is good: the heart of the issue is that everybodys body is their own, not health and physical fitness. I did, though. Ridiculous or not, it has been well established in Trek canon that starships have counselors/therapists, and they are often used by the crew. She would have flushed out of SFA in her first year. By existing? The very basis of Star Trek is in direct conflict with people like that. So when Tilly became a teacher I was like, freaky coincidence but perfect!). It took me 3 seasons just to remember all their names. Its all pretty subjective. From what Ive read, having her on the bridge because of her betazed abilities was what Roddenberry had in mind. Sense of morals. How blandly Puritan. David, Can we expect any surprising uses of the special things that Book can do in season four, now that he can control the spore drive? Good points. Star Trek: Discovery currently streams exclusively on Paramount+ in the U.S. Plus, TNG literally had a therapist as part of the bridge crew. David Ajala: The first thing that comes to mind, is maybe hes a borderline narcissist, vry egotistical, and self-absorbed. STAR TREK and its various marks are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. 2023 CBS Studios Inc./Paramount Pictures Corp. 2006-2023 SciFanatic Network | Legal/Privacy Info, Copyright 2023 | MH Newsdesk by MH Themes, Podcast: All Access Dives Into The Latest Episode Of Picard And Probes Star Treks TV (And Movie) Future, BREAKING: Star Trek: Discovery To Conclude With Season 5, Review: Star Trek: Picard Runs Deep In Seventeen Seconds, Watch Picard And Riker Reverse Their Classic Roles In Star Trek: Picard Episode 303 Clip, J.J. Abrams Talks Compelling Story For Star Trek 4; Chris Pine Expresses Frustration Over Wait, Just when it looks like the character has finally grown as a person and doing her own thing, comes right back., I love how Disco has put the human back into the human experience. And I agree wholeheartedly. Finally, actress Rekha Sharma shared this fun behind-the-scenes photo with Doug Jones and David Benjamin Tomlinson, where she lamented Landry being killed off yet again. New episodes of Star Trek: Discovery premiere on Thursdays on CBS All Access in the U.S. and on CTV Sci-Fi Channel in Canada, where it's also available to stream on Crave. I never thought of Adira as being all that similar, but I see your point. I basically just know the books that gets discussed or reviewed here. Jack perhaps you were at the Dave Chappelle protest screaming Judas, you are starting to sound like the type who gets sensitive over everything. I think Saru will just be the surrogate first officer again although he is now a captain. Obviously I dont know what M. Wiseman is like. I see those things and they hurt me because Im a person. I like Tilly but shes not my favourite character. You had a variety of body shapes on discovery Tilly was thick. I do not endorse body-shaming in any way, as I was bullied as a kid years ago. Cant believe some fans complain about character A or B or C. I am sorry, but the obsessive complaining about Sonequa/Michael or Mary/Tilly, for who they are, is so rude. Mary's fans are curious to know if she is indeed expecting a little one but the rumors are false. Its all relative, but I dont see a lot of actors being body-shamed. Her message was not that its okay to be overweight (and shes really not that overweight, nor should it really matter), but simply thats it okay to be her flaws and all. Maybe not but what are your thoughts? In fact most iterations of Trek the actors have provided a neutral delivery of their native accent. As long as the stories remain laser-focused on the *people* their *relationships* and the *emotions* generated therein, instead of ships, gadgets, and effects, well be fine. I have this image in my head of the EPs saying to Mack that theyd like species that havent been main characters in other shows and asking him to give a list of options for a big and strong species, a species without a bianary gender etc. So her appearances ended up not being 100% awful. She is best known for starring as Sylvia Tilly in the Paramount+ science fiction drama series Star Trek: Discovery (2017-present). Promoting her to the first officer was stupid enough, but now shes leading at the Academy? I keep hearing the word heartthats the poorest excuse yet. For me, DS9 was the best Star Trek Show for character development. Whether you choose to believe it or not, youre actually part of the problem. Well, the entire point is she absolutely looks the way I expect her to. I would encourage her to do the same. :P (I know the whole thing of having a *ships* councilor is inherently different from what real therapists do on dry land, but yeah its super weird. By: TrekMovie.com Staff I can see myself having a few bottles of synthehol with him. 1:15. The Terra Firma arc introduced the real Mirror Universe version of Tilly (aka Captain Killy). I let go of my preconceptions about what star trek is. Im reaally hoping season 4 will be smoother, Im holding thumbs here. Mary Wiseman: Well what is like the same root of Book but like the polar opposite expression of it? His Voyager appearances were also horrid. I would prefer to finish the rest of Prodigy first season instead. The following contains spoilers from Star Trek: Discovery's Season 4 finale. For your own good, please seek help. Did Tilly on Discovery gain weight? There is a great scene back in S1 when Tilly and Burnham are doing cardio training and post workout are eating their protien, carbs and fat nutrition, something that the body requires after a hard cardio workout. Like her prime universe counterpart, Tilly was portrayed by Mary Wiseman.. Tilly was presumably killed when the Discovery was destroyed in the prime universe.. Apocrypha. I echo your sentiments exactly, David. If that happens, I'm betting she'll be a part of it. I keep reading she shouldnt be in Starfleet because she is socially and emotionally immature. Nah Book is Boba Fett and I want to see the spin-off series THE BOOK OF BOOK :-). Overcome her issues. Somehow these insecure people feel others not like them are a threat to how they see themselves and how the world should, in their opinion, be. Just underused. What tradition do you speak of? So, hes likely a good fit for the Hageman brothers who say that they want to bring the Wrath of Khan feeling to the Prodigy audience. That promise was. It doesnt look like unhealthy curvy but just different type of genes. Personally I dont find that inspiring in any way whatsoever. For someone who is supposed to care about others, shes been remarkably stuck in her own emotions. In fact, at least on this website, I often see the contrary. Book is Han Solo. She cant control her weight. STAR TREK and its various marks are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. 2023 CBS Studios Inc./Paramount Pictures Corp. 2006-2023 SciFanatic Network | Legal/Privacy Info, Copyright 2023 | MH Newsdesk by MH Themes, Podcast: All Access Dives Into The Latest Episode Of Picard And Probes Star Treks TV (And Movie) Future, BREAKING: Star Trek: Discovery To Conclude With Season 5, Review: Star Trek: Picard Runs Deep In Seventeen Seconds, Watch Picard And Riker Reverse Their Classic Roles In Star Trek: Picard Episode 303 Clip, J.J. Abrams Talks Compelling Story For Star Trek 4; Chris Pine Expresses Frustration Over Wait, I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. No one can be expected to sugarcoat reality for you, and your attitude to people who dont is very indicative that you need someone to help you with that. The Enterprise D was the only place we saw a councelor. That was why she was never in uniform the first few seasons. I understand the actress is very well-respected and a nice person, but I couldnt stand the Tilly character myself. That could be it. I am a therapist in real life, and even *I* think it was crazy that they had a therapist on the bridge. Its very likely shell be on the Star Fleet Academy show if she continues as a regular/recurring character on a Trek show. Conversational, easy to listen to and understand every point. lol ;). She is full of self doubt, guilt, and anxiety, yet she doesnt quit. In CanadaDiscoveryis broadcast on CTV Sci-Fi Channel and streams on Crave. Ive re-learned through life experiences how to stop and smell the roses again you might say, among other things. Everybody loves Tilly. Except the writers of course. But I think one of the things that leaves everyone feeling unmoored in this situation is they dont even know how to use their skills to deal with this because its something theyve never seen before, and they cant predict it, they dont know by which rules its operating, and how to even engage. Im sorry but what youve described about Tilly is like something out of a Nickelodeon teen high school drama. Respectfully, to anyone somehow offended by that. Miss Wiseman F those fake Trekkies/Treksters keep acting your ass off. Way too many issues. | November 13, 2021 | The mirror Tilly and the ISS Discovery appear in the "Mirror of Discovery" storyline in Star Trek Online, as part of the game's 9th anniversary in January 2019; she is voiced by Mary Wiseman, who also . And a. Lwaxana Troi, Tilly is frankly nowhere near as annoying as those other characters. Bullied badly as a child and teen so I know what I speak of; Im just glad I grew up pre-Internet, and I sympathize with any nowadays who have to deal with Internet bullying on top of real world bullying. Tilly is the most human member of the crew. You know what, fvck you, Vulcan Soul. Its good to have ALL type of people/stories in our Star Trek Universe. By: TrekMovie.com Staff A person who we see strive to make themselves a better person. Even though he is one of the worst characters in Trek, he was the main focus in arguably the best episode of Voyager: Timeless. Her empathic abilities work via viewscreens? I wanted to be bigger and I spent much of my childhood, adolescence and even into my young adulthood doing all kinds of things to get bigger. She laughs at the memory. And no one in their right mind would play poker with her. I lovvvve Lilly/Tilly and her curves. Tilly is not a perfect officer. Having Tilly be one was justdumb. In this week's episode of Star Trek: Discovery season four, we saw Tilly leaving her crew and heading to the academy in order to foster young minds. Tillys anxiety got old real fast. I originally was skeptical but then I turned around in season 1 and really started enjoying it. No one can argue that Shatner is anything less than fit at whatever age. And CBS posted some images of Emperor Georgious quarters on the ISS Discovery. However, the problem with Tilly (and this really is more of a Star Trek Discovery problem because it exists with every character they do this to) is that she never made strides or attempts to improve. That is assuming the this Starfleet Academy show is set in the 32nd century. Learning? Heck I think it was more unrealistic when some chick was upset he wasn't ready for sex. Shes magnetic. It means something to me. Everybody loves is an idiom, it should never be taken as a strict statement. However, Tilly's rise to Lieutenant in Thursday's episode of Star Trek: Discovery did not invoke feelings of joy. IMHO, if she usually eats well, trains and commits to staying healthy, then life can be a lot of fun leading an active adventurous life while still enjoying food and fine dining and it is irrelevant what people say about her looks. But its at least nice they came to their senses with that ridiculous story turn (unlike Kirk). Im not counting on it. Though frankly, I find people like her generally seem more aware of their overall health and fitness than people who try to fit others images. Tillys a fantastic character. I keep saying this but its a great time to be a Star Trek fan again! Me thinks that your issue is not that fans of nu trek are pandered to to feel better about themselves. It explains why each scene is half-redundant and half-contradictory with the others within the same episode. A statistical average does not justify shaming or ridiculing anyone. She is relatable and human and wonderful. A rare, successful example of this is James Gunns Guardians otG and Suicide Squad, in which a similar premise is treated comedically yet with a touch of sincerity, so as not to devolve into outright farce. Sure, its not perfect, we all have a nitpick here and there, but as long as it has a message, it revolves around people, and some cool science stuff, its trek to me. . You can start with those or the later books in the Time to sequence without significant confusion. SuKal accidentally blowing up all warp ships thats another instance of Trek being intwined with my own life So you offend S3 of DSC, you also sully the memory of my mum and EVERY mother that ever died. He also has emotional intelligence. Mary Wiseman is sending the message that your body is your own, your responsibility, and nobody elses business, not any sort of health and fitness message. Sonequa is by all accounts probably the best or one of the best chef de compagnie of all the Trek series. She strikes me as no different than Barkley. The show will roll out on Paramount Plus in the US, and is expected to stream on Netflix elsewhere. Im proud to see that shes proud of herself. She wrote ten books based around this concept and still writing them. And how and how would your abilities be used in the Mirror Universe? I wasnt complaining there were therapists on board. Im a human being, you know? In fact most of their fears and phobias were explored in various episodes. Overweight is a risk of becoming obese. But it would seem to me that it might ought to be standard practice to have a Betazed on the bridge on all starships if those stills were so needed. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Sylvia Tilly was an ambitious female Human Starfleet officer who lived during the mid- 23rd century. Speaking to Glamour UK, Sonequa Martin-Green revealed that she has dealt with body image issues too: Back in the mid-to-late eighties, early nineties, everything I saw, with hip hop, was all curvy, curvy, big butt, she recalls. Sonequa Martin-Green in Unification III, Co-showrunner Michelle Paradise shared some behind-the-scenes photos from Terra Firma, Part 2.. Shes not going anywhere. Barclay was funny and silly but relatable due to his social anxiety. Ive seen people here and on other message boards body-shame Ms.Wiseman, and its disgusting. The character. There is also the issue that a crew needing constant therapy sessions while regularly saving the galaxy is not an easy narrative trick to pull off. We want people to get their facts from reliable health sources, not celebrities, so saying actors should be sending some sort of fitness message is just backwards. Of all the issues I have with Star Trek Discovery, Mary Wiseman/Tilly is definitely not among them. Ive read plenty of well-deserved criticism of the writing but to my knowledge, there has been no widespread criticism of STD acting or physical appearances. She is super meta. Im sorry youve had to experience that and I strongly urge you to take what comfort you can from whatever source you can, regardless of how other people feel about that source. The journey to discovering Tilly, the rescue puppy that would change our lives, began before she was even born. Wiseman would be smart to ignore the haters because their posts are rooted in negativity and hate. It felt like an organic exit, and with the way that others said goodbye to her, it . She wears 36D bra size and weighs 147 pounds. Shaming is one thing. STAR TREK and its various marks are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. 2023 CBS Studios Inc./Paramount Pictures Corp. 2006-2023 SciFanatic Network | Legal/Privacy Info, Copyright 2023 | MH Newsdesk by MH Themes, Podcast: All Access Dives Into The Latest Episode Of Picard And Probes Star Treks TV (And Movie) Future, BREAKING: Star Trek: Discovery To Conclude With Season 5, Review: Star Trek: Picard Runs Deep In Seventeen Seconds, Watch Picard And Riker Reverse Their Classic Roles In Star Trek: Picard Episode 303 Clip, J.J. Abrams Talks Compelling Story For Star Trek 4; Chris Pine Expresses Frustration Over Wait. The other big issue Ive always had is the graphic nature of violence, this We are TV-MA streaming, so we can do anything attitude I simply hate that. That is not anything to diss. I actually had an entire epic story mapped out that I was seriously considering turning into a series of novels. Its one thing thats definitely been improved upon by the more recent stuff. And, yeah, I've also heard a rumor about a potential Starfleet Academy series, and I'm assuming it's being set in the future setting of Discovery. That one ship generates more energy than present-day Earths entire human energy expenditure, generates its own artificial gravity, and violates causality routinely. Body shaming is just another category of bullying, with the same general goal of the shamer making him/herself feel superior by putting down others around them, rather than elevate him/herself with goodwill and compassion. #StarTrekDiscovery #MirrorLandry pic.twitter.com/Ed0nbToiQH, Rekha the leaves (@TheRekhaSharma) December 19, 2020.
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