Independent He perhaps worded somethings poorly perhaps, but he is completely turned off by your attitude and responses Steve. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. 4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? We believe that God created the entire universe in six literal, twenty-four-hour days (Genesis 1:1-27). Anderson, Fannin and Shelley traded accusations of financial wrongdoing and running a cult. 2Co 2:10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; You said we dont forgive people for their salvation we cant because we arent Jesus. the appearance of things is more important than reality, aka, you will cover up abuse and silence victims in order to protect the name of Christ. Many churches are about the money, as is some of their pastors. I will never forget that day that I sat in my pastors car and he prayed with me, he didnt know what was happening in my life, but he knew I needed someone to pray with and I could see it in his eyes. Remember when Jesus rebuked the Pharisees? 19. The Bible talks about a CHEERFUL GIVER. If a person gets right with God, then they will usually give, not because they have to, rather because they want to give. If you think that tithing 10% of your gross income is the minimum, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 6. 1.
Southern Baptist Beliefs Constitution and They knew it would be an investment in your giving and service to them (yes they are that evil). If your pastor refuses to be called Reverend, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Ive known many people whom God has reached using the IFB. I understand others dont like hearing God gave inspiration to the Kjv, but its true. Clearly only one unforgivable sin is mentioned in the Bible (KJV even) and that isnt it. 5. lm 8:4-9; Colossians 3:9-11). If your church sings Just As I Am at the end of every service We sing that song once in a while since its a good invitational song. THESE SERMON OUTLINES By Michael D. ONeal, Founder and Pastor Since 1986 Of. The IFB are Pharisees of our day. I know the answers now. If you (like Jason) come to this site to criticize sarcasm by hypocritically using sarcasm, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. 49. Since God looks at Jesus to forgive Ill look at Jesus also to forgive. If you believe going to the movies is a sin but not renting movies or watching them on TV, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 10. Which is more importantthe gold or the Temple that makes the gold sacred? You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things. And that boy who has grown up in Sunday School (because I brought him in my car every week) is now in 6th grade and has experienced the concept of unconditional love and promises that are kept things which would otherwise have been foreign. Members come into the church personally, individually, and freely. I have no belief, opinion, or position of this I dare say it would be the one you enjoy making fun of. 6 Dont waste what is holy on people who are unholy. I dont even know what a Scofield Bible is but I believe God can use divorced people. Was so funny reading it, one thing that struck me is if an outsider were to read it theyd be incredulous, wondering how we stuck with it for so long. If you pray using the KJV language I dont pray like that except when I recite the Lords Prayer because nobody talks like that anymore. We believe in one Triune God, eternally existing in three personsFather, Son, and Holy Spirit, co-eternal in being, co-identical in nature, co-equal in power and glory, and having the same attributes and perfections (Deuteronomy 6:4; II Corinthians 13:14). 48. Scripture is Good! But if people come here to attack me and my views I will defend myself. Such as??? Our accountability comes through a board of directors comprised of 24 independent fundamental Baptist pastors who, in turn, were elected to serve as directors by independent fundamental Baptist pastors. But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. 39. 4. Basically he was just marketing for his college. You consider it a personal failure if you are not able to find a verse within ten seconds, and secretly proud if you are able to find it right away. (John 3:36; Romans 14:4-12;2 Corinthians 4:2; Titus 1:9), Local church membership is restricted to individuals who give a believable testimony of personal faith in Christ and have publicly identified with Him in believer's baptism. We should teach our children of who Jesus is and how we should live a holy or Christian life. You should have, instead of adding a dozen or so of your comments, said If you believe everything in the Bible, you might be an Independent Baptist. Please correct me if Im wrong, but arent we supposed to follow the teachings of the Bible, such as tithing? Independent Baptist churches (some also called Independent Fundamental Baptist or IFB) are Christian congregations, generally holding to conservative (primarily fundamentalist) Baptist beliefs. Would the lost or questioning feel that even if someone is attacking your comments, that youre setting an example that they could adopt? I wanted to go to church but was not able to. Matthew 6:14-15 I found this site while checking for deceptions in different denominations, starting with Mormons. If your pastor begins his sermon by reading one verse then yells and pounds the pulpit for the next 30 minutes, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 17. You are correct! There are those who are called to rebuke abusive religious practices. This is the same pastor who said, you can come and let us tell you how you can know how you can know for sure how you can make Heaven your home. I already know where the IFB is coming from, I was indoctrinated in their dogma for 25 years. His mom, Dorothy Chrisman, was a teacher at the academy run by Fairhaven. No one leaves on good terms unfortunately. We sought counseling to see if there was any hope. We forgive people, but only God can forgive sins. XII. Also, we lived in a free Appartement with food stamps. We are not affiliated with any man-made external organization be it a Convention, Association, Fellowship, or National Denomination. How come many Americans havent heard of the Independent Fundamental Baptist church movement? You feel forced to go door to door preaching No general opinion on this since door to door preaching within the IFB is very similar to that of the Jehovahs Witnesses though we should share the gospel to others, especially to those who dont have Christ in their lives. Most pastors are lacking and are full of themselves because of one basic issue. WHY do children that leave IFB churches hardly ever come back? We ARE the church my friend! Hypocrites! 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. This is the only church Ive been to, so I just awsume all Churchs are loving, caring, forgiving, honest, and strive to bring glory to god and its just sad to here that thats not the case. Amen! Interesting that Steve begins his response by taking the Lords name in vainmmmmmmm, very interesting, but hes found the truth, riiiiight. I wanted to marry my boyfriend, but I want to fix him first. Rather than attack one another, perhaps understand where both are coming from? We believe that the strict, literal interpretation of the Bible makes us Baptists. (Genesis 2:24; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:20-32; I Corinthians 5:1; 6:9; I Thessalonians 4:l-8; Hebrews 13:4), We believe that human life begins at conception and that the unborn child is a living human being. If you are careful to not show any emotion while singing for fear that you could be considered dancing, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 33. Again its too legalistic. We believe the King James Bible to be inerrant. People are more willing to change their ways when confronted in love rather then with criticism and bitterness. Jesus forgives and loves and he also needs to be honored is all respects. They are counting on your service and tithe. Even I believe that if you are living in sin you are getting to the point where you are eventually will lose your salvation. I actually looked up the word just now (Random House Websters College Dictionary), and here are the definitions: 3.) This is an independent fundamental Baptist program that has chapters in churches all across the country. Pastor and his wife knew where we lived and probably wondered why, but they never asked or pried. Section 1: General This is a sovereign and democratic independent fundamental Baptist church under the Lordship of Jesus Christ. You can read more about that here: https://baptistdeception.com/cult/. Baptist Churches Since 1975 Are From the Ministry of a Man of Whom it Has Been Said: You are probably the most childish acting preacher You can forgive him, that doesnt mean you have to marry him. If you think that homosexuality is an unforgivable sin Thats not true. The Bible is our sole and final authority for faith and practice. If you think that reading a version of the Bible other than the KJV is a sin, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 18. I forgave and praise the lord in my life forgiveness was indeed profitable. "[3], The New IFB was formed by Anderson and other Baptist pastors in 2017 in an attempt to revive what they perceived older independent Baptist churches once represented. Jesus does that. If your pastor begins his sermon by reading one verse than yells and pounds the pulpit for the next 30 minutes, my current pastor, at Balsam Street Christian Church, doesnt do any of the two as he doesnt use the pulpit to preach his sermons anyways. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ was raised bodily and that He ascended to Heaven and is now exalted at the right hand of God, where, as our High Priest, He fulfills the ministry of Representative, Intercessor, and Advocate (Acts 1:9-10; Hebrews 9:24, 7:25; Romans 8:34; I John 2:1-2). Apart from Him we can do nothing. I do into great detail about why I believe the IFB is cultish in practice. Baptism means that a believer is bodily immersed in water followed by being raised up And Pastor of Bible-Believing, Fundamental, Independent. Much to their horror, they could not find a church that had a Wednesday night service anywhere in the area. We are happily married today blessed with 2 more children. (Acts 2:41-47; 1 Corinthians 12:12,18; 2 Corinthians 6:14; Hebrews 10:23-25), Scripture mandates two offices for the local church: Pastor and Deacon. Three words vacation bible school *shiver*. The IFB ostracizes people when they leave. All youve done in your last paragraph is parrot typical IFB talking points no substance there, just regurgitation. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brothers eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? We even have TWO. Thanks for reading! Quite the contrary, I was searching for something else when I clicked on this link, so I didnt then and dont now come looking to argue. So the IFB pastor did counseling for 2 weeks and then, despite physical abuse, told you to get married! While I am not against crucifixes but using them in public worship is idolatry because the bible forbids idols. WebAn independent, fundamental Baptist, local church oriented faith Mission serving Baptist and Bible churches in their missions outreaches and church planting around the world. ), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 41.
Heartland Baptist Bible College (Matthew 28:19-20; Romans 6:4; 1 Corinthians 11:23-32), Every individual, believer and unbeliever, possesses the God-given privilege of free will having the liberty to choose what to believe. If your eyes quickly scan down to see if a fellow female church member is wearing the acceptable skirt, dress or koulotts outside of church, and Heaven forbid shes wearing capris or pants!! It is the final authority on all matters of faith, practice, and polity. If you compromise too much with the world, satan gets in and anything can happen thats why the word says to stay vigilant. We teach that baptism is necessary for salvation as I get this quote from the King James Version from John 3:5; Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Same position regarding IFB belief 29. the Bible teaches us to prove and test matters. As I sit under preaching, sing worship songs unto the Lord, pray earnestly, read my Bible as often as I can, and search through commentaries to help me gain a deeper knowledge instead of surface reading, I KNOW Im drawing closer to God in a personal relationship with Him. Any ways God is good and can use any church to reach anyone it all depends on if you as an individual will receive his free gift of salvation, because God is that powerful. I grew up in a IFB school and then university, so I can totally relate. I am pretty conservative, but find some of this stuff outright ridiculous! 31 But in saying that, you testify against yourselves that you are indeed the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 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Due to the nature of the churches being independentin their autonomy, a percentage of what is believed, practiced or condemned by Independent Baptists (or IndependentFundamental Baptists, or Bible Believing Baptists, or IndependentBible Believing Baptists, or Unaffiliated Baptists, or Unaffiliated IndependentBaptists - just to Exposing the Dangerous Teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Denomination, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception 2009-2020, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception, You Might Be an Independent Fundamental Baptist if, https://baptistdeception.com/bitterness-deception/, https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/, https://baptistdeception.com/reasons-for-not-accepting-the-kjv-as-gods-preserved-word-a-response-to-pastor-james-melton/, https://www.openbible.info/topics/tithe_in_the_new_testament, http://www.thelaymansbiblicalhandbook.com/, Broad Stroking and Sweeping Generalizations Fallacy, Harold Camping Fails to Predict the Rapture, The 10 Commandments of the Independent Fundamental Baptists, 92-Year-Old Woman Kicked Out of Church for not Tithing. People can ask for clarification if they want. The IFB is the organization hurting His cause. The pastor pointed out (over the course of his long 2 hour sermon LOL) that a shepherd doesnt use a rod and staff to beat his sheep but to prod and guide them. Only the KJV will be used in this group; On the Arminianist view the church I go to now teaches from a biblical standpoint that salvation can still be lost. I had no idea that I, as an IFB, might be guilty of these things. Its NOT ABOUT US! If we must consider these points as a point for consideration, these ought to be a source form the Bible. If you think that the other translations are too wordly that right there I dont like. This list are things that are unique to the IFB. Im sure that this was meant to be funny but I can tell that you seem bitter. (Mat 22:37-40) Can you honestly say that this is of God. I cant stand when preachers pound the pulpits because its distracting and irritating for me though I am not against preachers yelling as long as they dont yell too loud. What a typical, legalistic comment from Jason. The New IFB considers the modern nation of Israel to be a fraud and it also teaches that Christians rather than Jews are God's chosen people. We believe that man was created in the image and likeness of God, but that in Adam's sin the race fell, inherited a sinful nature, and became alienated from God; and therefore man is totally depraved, and, of himself, utterly unable to remedy his lost conditin (Genesis 1: 26- 27; Romans 3: 2 2-23; Ephesians 2 : 1-3, 12). If people asked rather than assumed there would be a lot less reactions.
What We Believe - Fundamentalist Baptist Church The tradition of men, human opinion, false science, religious creeds, nor popular opinion override the plain teaching of God's Word. You can read some of the experiences here: https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/. WebHeartland Baptist Bible College is unique. For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the lawjustice, mercy, and faith. The True Church: The doctrine of a believer's church is a key belief in Baptist life. Womens should not wear pants This is not the case at my congregation. We had no money. He granted his permission to work in the Infant Ministry and Toddler, and 3-4 year old Ministry. If your pastor preaches against smoking because it is bad for the body but is himself an obese glutton, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 25. We believe raising your hands during warship is appropriate, but the Bible specifically says to bow the head 2 Chronicles 20:18. If you attend a church that has a team of men who are charged with keeping an attendance count each Sunday, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 43.
Baptist Not of works, lest any man should boast. We believe that the Scriptures are inerrant, infallible, and God-breathed. Being a IFB preacher, I confess a lot of truth here. The reality is the ONLY TRUE CHURCH is the church that PRACTICES BIBLICAL TEACHINGS and NOT THAT OF MAN-MADE TEACHINGS because THEY ARE AGAINST THE BIBLE because I do ask the question that why there are so many churches.