I'm so glad I read this. The next day I got an e-mail saying that the "government guy" was OK with it and that I should return the form. I said it sounded like a great idea. Don't give in. The survey taker shows up at the residence unannounced to request that the resident comply with the survey or otherwise face potential legal repercussions. The survey also asks how many bedrooms and bathrooms you have in your house, along with the fuel used to heat your home, the cost of electricity, what type of mortgage you have and monthly mortgage payments, property taxes and so on. Life is too short to be so mad about insignificant things. Well, our credit cards, social security numbers, and who knows what else, are now being used by illegal aliens and fraudulent companies. I will not be returning her call. You would have done well in the SS. The ACS is not part of the enumeration required by Article I of the Constitution, and that constitutional provision only applies to a census for purposes of counting the number of people in each state. I received this census (which to clarify is not the 10 year one, we filled that one out). I assume that's why they have come again. So they bully and threaten and use fear to scare people into compliance. For instance, the ACS asks how many persons live in your home, along with their names and detailed information about them such as their relationship to you, marital status, race and their physical, mental and emotional problems, etc. What you guys who love to quote the constitution fail to take into account are all of the amendments the government has quietly put in since it was first written. I am so glad I found this website. I filed my taxes, all the information they feel they need to know is there. If I have 1, 2 or even 3 people in my house, that is all I need to give. EXCLUDE State operated juvenile residential facilities. I guess all the info requested I am OK with. I just moved to a suburb outside of Detroit after years of living there, and its strange but I also got 'grilled' the last time it came around. on the back it says dec 31 2011 is when approval from OMB expires. I have no problem with telling folks how many people, even our ages and nationalities. Clemons v. Dep't of Commerce, 562 U.S. 1105 (2010). [3] U.S. Constitution, Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3. What time did this person usually leave home to go to work last week? I would rather pay the $100 fine to keep my freedom in check. [17] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Disability.pdf. I gave only the necessary information for an actual enumeration of my household. We were hired to call people who did not respond and we left messages on answering machines. 241, 250, of all the rights of the citizen, few are of greater importance or more essential to his peace and happiness than the right of personal security, and that involves, not merely protection of his person from assault, but exemption of his private affairs, books, and papers from inspection and scrutiny of others. ACS has only been going since 2005. I ordered him to leave and he said he would have to go get the sheriff and return. You don't want your personal information in some library, online or in an archives someday do you? They believe the survey asks for more information, and at a higher frequency, than the simple enumeration required by Article 1, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution. Thank you, wonderful conspiracy theorists for repeatedly posting erroneous information on here and showing everyone that you truly have no life. They have also threatened to fine or jail me. She was a little surprised how I knew things about her. Are we going to let this happen? I watched and saw that she was only there five minutes. Since the Constitution established a federal government of limited enumerated powers and that document does not grant them the general power to request the information, I am under no constitutional obligation to provide it, and therefore refuse to answer the ACS. My husband said he is going to start asking them the personal questions and leave it at that. Just got my second second ACS survey in the last three years. He was very surprised. Finally, she asked me if I was refusing to answer the questions and if I wanted her to put that down. They left before they arrived. Census Bureau Table. Access American Community Survey data on the Census Bureau's new platform, data.census.gov. Objections to the ACS include the personal nature of some of its questions and, despite government assurances to the contrary, associated confidentiality issues. Now, I want to know how we go about suing these senseless census idiots! Fix this problem, fix that, insure this, promise that, but do it without any info, just throw a dart and hope for the best, then when it fails we'll have someone to blame it on, but it won't be our fault! Explain that their responses will constitute consent to display the video online. She offered me her badge and supervisors number. Their bosses are going like it even less. With identity theft on the rise, many are concerned. In 1960, the gap was . I got a call last night from the Census folks, wanting to know our birthdays. This is proof that the government of the USA is anything but the servant that it was created to be. Condos hire people inside the condo as census people. I don't owe the government anything for going to college. But I guess they probably figured that out, so decided to send it to only 2.6 percent of the population at a time. Skip to main content. It's supposed to be confidential. 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This means that there is no class that can be joined or signed up for by any consumers who feel they may have been covered by the litigation. Once on Saturday, once on Wednesday, three times yesterday, and so far once today. The daily number of cyber attacks on our federal government and access by illicit state and non-state actors is eye watering. There is an actual law on the books, but that law has never been applied. anon82113: umm, I worked for the census too. It features stories on various topics such as housing, employment and population. answers to this "anonymous" survey, my information would necessarily be identifiable, perhaps through my address, for at least some period of time. This is especially true if you have already returned your regular census form. When the government fears the people there is liberty." Apr 15 -- The Census Bureau invites comments to OMB by May 16, 2022 on the three-year extension of the American Community Survey and the Puerto Rico Community Survey. 8) Stop embezzling trillions of tax payers dollars for fraudulent purposes. A week later, the same worker showed up and said it was my last chance or I could be fined and possibly jailed. I filled out the form only giving the required information by law and that is how many people live here. Maybe that is why only one out of every 480 people receive it. I tried to assure her that this indeed was not a prank but she was too busy being rude and just kept talking, finally telling me to call my senator, which I did. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses. The Rutherford Institute And if I were paranoid, I'd be accusing the census takers of taking my new baby's ss card that has still not arrived in my hands in four months! Anyway, i thought i would turn it into something funny and started a blog. It is just such a sick country now. Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168, 190. Somewhere in the process we got some messages on the answering machine asking us to call their 800 number and refer to our "case number." We are still Americans and do not need to share personal information against our will. Can anyone please tell me if I am obligated to answer these questions. We have received phone calls. He presented me with an ACS envelope and said a "government guy" had come to school and was having random students fill them out. During the past year and especially with the current administration in D.C., I am so angry and distrustful of our government. Before commenting, please review our comment policy. You can find the ACS forms on the Census web site under ACS. Don't be afraid. We had a census worker come to our door who started asking personal questions, until my hubby finally said that's enough. As stated in the US Constitution Article 1 Section 2: I only have to fulfill my duty as a citizen by helping you enumerate, and I'm not required to answer any questions until the next Census in 2010. I am currently working for the Census as an enumerator. I looked the form up online and balked at the intrusiveness of the question. Wow! So go ahead and fill it out 235. I refused to answer these as these are not required. What an imposing questionnaire! Yesterday, a lady came by and tried to ask questions about the form. 0 Total panelists in the survey 11,699 Completed interviews I 10,417 Partial interviews P 0 How am I supposed to know who these people are? Finally a man identifying himself as a supervisor came to the door and demanded I answer. Protect your privacy. Now, Bob and Joan Rapier say their. American will also allow most passengers barred from flying for mask noncompliance "to resume travel at some point in time," Gatten said in an earnings call on Thursday. The American Community Survey (ACS) helps local officials, community leaders, and businesses understand the changes taking place in their communities. About how much do you think this house and lot, apartment, or mobile home would sell for if it were for sale? I answered the questions on the Census that are Constitutional, and that is it. I received the ACS invasion of privacy letter on my door yesterday. I suggest that people find a petition out there against this census survey. I've been through it. As soon as they identified themselves as being with the Census Bureau, I quickly informed them that I sent it in. I intend to scan the thing and email it to everyone I know, plus my congressman and senators. Here are the facts I discovered: Some of the questions asked in this questionnaire are so intrusive that I would not even give this information to my best friends or relatives. The ACS program provides estimates annually for all states and for all medium and large cities . Bring it on ACB enumeratorsgo ahead, make my day!! I'm so glad I'm not alone. The majority of the survey questions were drawn from published surveys [13, 20, 21]. [7] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Acreage_AgSales.pdf. When hell freezes over. After four or five visits with three notices taped to the door over two weeks, they seem to have given up. Our government today is so far from the Founding Father's ideals - demonstrated by the nasty face we are seeing in these examples. They just look at you and say "Oh" and then walk away. I needed to read this! Just sit there and think a minute on what we have in this country and you should feel very ashamed for getting so upset about such petty things. And a law without consequences is no law at all. If they come and announce who they are, I'll simply start yelling, "Non parlo Inglese! I made the mistake of answering some questions, thinking it was a one time thing. Daily calls (five or six) two invasive questionnaires mailed, and now intimidating and threatening phone calls. She informed me if I did not answer her questions, eventually the county sheriff would come. I also feel for the ones who fought and died for us, who spit in their graves. I can go on the internet and find more about you then anything the census is looking for. The Census Bureau can't issue a fine, they have to refer the case to the Dept. I see no reason to comply. We sent in the form with the number of people, then called the girl who left a note on our door. I repeatedly told her that I gave the legal information I am required by law and that is how many people live here. For every question not answered, there is a $100 fine. I don't want abuse from anyone, least of all from those who were once subject to the people and who now act as if they are the elite. State that you have not made up your mind yet and will get back with them (think "slow roll"). IE: IRS, DOT, Labor and Industry. of Justice. They must have found it because I heard no more but neither did I get an apology. I have one final question for anyone who thinks this is just an overreaction to a few census questions: If George Bush and Dick Cheney were sitting in the White House, and Halliburton was storing the data, would you still feel the same way? So he then left. If every household in the nation received this survey at once, there might be more of any outcry and uproar for our government to cut out the nonsense or face a revolution! The name of my employer, my wages for the previous year, the number of exemptions for my house, my social security numbers as well as those of my dependents, my marital status. During dinner a census worker shows up. This info is also for the number of State Senators and Congressmen. Get class action lawsuit news sent to your inbox sign up for ClassAction.orgs free weekly newsletterhere. I have no idea about the ACS (or any of their personal questions). It's 1984 - no wait, I mean 2010. Others have reminded me that this information about me is posted out in the paper world, cyber world, etc., somewhere. Anyway he proceed to stretch as much as he could so he could look into my living room. the census is just a way of allocating seats for elected officials and that's all. Helping this corrupt government "function" is the same thing as helping this corrupt government go kill more people, invade our privacy, tax our income, levy fines, issue permissions slips and tattoo our butts. Three times they were soaked standing at my door. To those of you who claim to be "harassed" by these enumerators, why didn't you just complete the Census form you received in the mail back in March and send it back? I've worn a uniform to serve my country and, apparently, most of you feel as I do. do i have right to due process? We did not return the census, and received continuous letters and threats. If you believe you are being unduly harassed by a Census Bureau employee, either by telephone or in person, it is in your best interestto carefully document the time, place and manner of the incidents and file a complaint with the U.S. Census Bureau. NO ONE EVER GETS IN TROUBLE for refusing to answer. I'm too old and sick. I will not answer the questions on the ACS. One month ago, I received a letter stating that the census was coming. Should you have further questions or need legal assistance in exercising your constitutional rights, please contact the Legal Department at legal@rutherford.org. You have no idea. Due to a likely technicality, I received this, with the wrong address. I thought to myself, now they are going to harass them. The census taker left a note me a note today. [5] Unlike the decennial census which is sent out every 10 years, the ACS is an ongoing survey that is sent out on a continuous basis by the Census Bureau.[6]. A March 2021 national survey from the Kaiser Family Foundation showed that of 1300 HCWs, 48% had not received the COVID-19 vaccine. Ridiculous. A few visits to my door that went unanswered, a few letters filled with empty threats, and after a month or so, and it all subsided. That wasn't supposed to be able to happen. We have received 3 demands from the Census Bureau. She noticed that I was very irritated and told me that she just needs the number of people who live here and ages. Decennial Census. Those of you who filled it out have no backbone or common sense. any lawyers looking for some pro bono work ready to take up this issue? But it did. I am literally getting up to six phone calls a day, mass mailings, and mass e-mails. A truly honest, upright government does not hire goons and bullies to do any work for them. That and the census has been used in the past to identify people of Japanese, German, and Italian descent. We need to take a stand and not put up with all the socialist crap the government wants us to do. We need to take our country back. Just slam the phone or door on them. They again called a few days ago and I answered. We are so far from what our forefathers prayerfully constructed as a government that it will take a real miracle from heaven for a national revival now. If the government really wants to know your personal stuff, well they don't need the few benign questions answered to find you. Questions and Answers about the ACS in , , Franais, Kreyl ayisyen, , Polski, Portugus, , Espaol, Vit Ng. There is no legal obligation for you to answer their questions. And send a Federal Marshal out to write you a ticket. The census man came to my house eight times, two of which he sat in my driveway for a total of 50 minutes. Got this survey in the mail and opened it and started reading the questions and couldn't believe it I was so pissed off, it's really none of their business. No one from the Census has been escorted off your property by the police - Title 13 gives them the right to be on your property. EXCLUDE incidents involving juveniles or youthful offenders held in facilities operated by your State juvenile system. A: While the Census Bureau claims that an individuals information will be kept strictly confidential,[28] it does require a recipient to put their name on the survey, ostensibly for the purpose of asking follow-up questions in the event of missing or incomplete answers.[29]. I propose: 1) Grabbing your video recorder and recording the entire exchange. I plead the 5th amendment because the government can ask legally, according to the attorneys office, but I can also remain silent legally. Learn about two important Census Bureau surveys covering housing data, the American Community Survey (ACS) and the American Housing Survey (AHS). The judge summarized that general statements made by the Census Bureau with regard to, say, the support of federal law or that taking the ACS was required by U.S. law fall short of the benchmark necessary to constitute a specific threat of prosecution. One dear government lady actually said she did not have time for prank phone calls. Has anyone ever been fined or penalized for not complying? Outraged in Maryland. But the Supreme Court is not supreme over the other branches of government; it is supreme only over lower federal courts. One fact I see missing is that they say you are cheating you state and city out of government funds (our tax dollars). The census is unconstitutional - read the enumerations - and the amendments already cited. What the hell are you mad about? D. oes anyone understand what is involved in managing 300 million people spread out over an entire continent, each thinking all that matters is their individual needs? Does this person have difficulty doing errands alone such as doctor's visits or shopping? The census collectors or enumerators can ask for some sensitive and detailed information, such as salary or income. However, the ACS wants to know what time my husband and I leave for work each day, our employer's address, our work location address (if different from our employer's) and if we commute via car, carpool or public transportation. Then they came to my door while I was out of town and left me a note with their name and number. American Community Survey. [17], The survey combines these intrusive questions with highly detailed inquiries about your financial affairs. So, my husband filled it out with the lady standing at my front door. The next day I saw this guy talking to my neighbor and figured he was submitting him to the same harassment I had received. You fill it out and keep it moving- we don't want to. Like many, I received the original short census form, completed it and mailed it back immediately. Subscribe to our newsletter and learn something new every day. You can search the internet and find many references to threats of a fine, but you won't find anyone who has ever been fined. If he shows up, he'll get the same response (or none at all). On 22 September 2006, the American Broadcast Company (ABC) reported that, since 2003, the Census Bureau lost or reported stolen over 200 laptops and numerous handheld and portable data devices used by survey collectors. You have two ways to respond: Respond online today at: https://respond.census.gov/acs OR . and inviting me to contact them if I had any concerns. I will not answer the questions on the American Community Survey and we all have the right and the duty to stand up against this intrusion. They even sent me a Federal Express package telling me how important the information they still wanted to collect was. And nowhere in the Library of Congress has any bill ever given them the right to fine you. It's the amendments that congress is busy adding to the original Constitution while you guys are busy working, fishing, etc., instead of watching congressional actions on C Span or some such that are killing us and our rights. If the IRS has no info on you, you're illegal anyway. What? We will then see them online. After they fill out the form, I seriously doubt they think about you ever again. Pericles, 460BC. Unfortunately, the guy probably already knew the answers to some of the questions. This job fair is also open to FCPS teachers seeking transfers, current applicants, and FCPS . Using new satellite data analysis techniques, researchers found that, since 2000, summer wildfires have expanded in boreal forests, which wrap around the northernmost parts of the Earth. While we understand your assertion that this information is needed for some reason deemed important by somebody, and that the information requested will be kept strictly confidential, I respectfully decline to participate in this American Community Survey, and request that you do not misdirect further efforts to gather this private information about the members of my household from either myself or any other source. "Only a few questions"? I'm sick of this. They don't want the constituents who elected them to be harassed. I want to put it in the woodstove and make my house a fortress. ), What in the world is wrong with you people? The more I looked at it, the more I realized how unconstitutional and invasive it is. I am appalled by the questions asked on the ACS! However, that's not all. I have not had the privilege yet of receiving the census form but I'm sure I will soon. If the enumerators cannot get this info from the Social Security Administration or the local state tax boards then there must be a reason why not! Poster 209: I believe that it is better to clearly refuse up front. This was way out of line and uncalled for! My caller id usually reads 'unavailable' or 'out of area'. Just because some bureaucrat says that U.S. Code, Title 13 makes the American Community Survey legal and enforceable, the test of time will surely prove that it is not. Actual enumeration is required. Just open the door, answer their questions, and they will forget about you and your insignificant existence for another 10 years. She left. Thus, they cannot use the census as the pretext for the ACS. Years ago someone told me that the information can be used in a book (that may or may not be in your library) that is published showing where you work, how long you lived at your residence, etc. What I want to know for sure is: Can they make, force, and punish you for not filling out this thing? One concern with the collection of such private information, especially financial information, is that ACS information could be compared to information provided to the Internal Revenue Service on tax returns. Well they stopped today. Its as if this part of the government wants to create dirt on someone if they can find it! OMB No. I refused entry into my home. They do NOT enforce noncompliance, because they know this survey is UNAmerican and UNConstitutional and would NOT stand up in a court of law against The People. Mine went in the shredder, and I ignored the phone calls. You want me to trust the census with information that is very private? I received your American Community Survey some time ago, and shortly thereafter returned the survey, including only the information you are authorized to collect, and I am required to provide, per the requirements of Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution, that is, the number of persons in our household, for the purposes of proper apportionment of our US Congressional representation. I've since received a second one, and had one call this week(which I did not answer). I told him "We're done here". And when I'm asked what my address is, I'll respond with, "I pay taxes, look it up.". Today another call demanding to know my name and telling me I would be fined. From (original) Poster 188: Knock on wood, the phone calls seem to have stopped. [11] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Computer.pdf. That's when I lost my patience and said "Look pal, you're here to count people right. 1. And finally, to the person who looked up the Census rep's name then mentioned her husband had called and wanted her to stop at the store so she looked at him in shock? I even gave them the date I mailed it on. There should be a law against this. I have yet to fill one out. I told them I was not responding, and as I shut the door and walked away she stood on the porch and rang the bell, and since then it's all gone down hill. And then I get this BS from a government agency? Start here to respond: Responder en espaol First five digits of User ID:Last five digits of User ID Can't find the User ID? Do as you see fit. Let's see how much they like it. A man was arrested and charged with attempting to place an explosive or incendiary device on an aircraft after his bag triggered an alarm at Lehigh Valley International Airport in Pennsylvania, US . This workshop will demonstrate through hands-on exercises on how to access data using the Census Bureau tools for short and long-term Community planning. So keep your information private and don't give in. Beyond that, please cease and desist all further efforts to gather personal and private information about the members of my household, it will not be provided. I just thought I would throw that out there! Keep being sheep. Now I have people pestering my doorman for my information, pretending to be food deliverymen claiming that I ordered food - just so they can come up to my apartment --wow. Although I suspect it's really only one or two of you. I served my country in Vietnam. In the end, the Census Bureau has the legal authority to conduct the survey and legally has the option of imposing fines for non-compliance. But remember some of these folks have children to feed, too. If it gets to the point where they actually come to your house, the "enumerator" is going to tell you it's too late to give your answers to the Survey in writing, and he'll insist (threaten) that you must tell him the personal details of your life while he types it into his laptop computer. Although an intrusive visit would make my blood boil, I would suggest a similar strategy for visits if possible. Apparently my post office would not send it to me. Make your own mind up as to what your world should be -- it's that simple. The following Q&A is provided as a resource to those who want to better understand their rights in respect to the ACS. I since looked through the forms for the ACS on their site and it does ask far to much personal info. But seriously, It's not about conspiracy theories. They will report any threats or harassment (allegedly), so be careful how you respond to them. Of course I would expect them to correct this oversight in the near future. In order to do that people response is required. I agree with telling I live here, how many live here, as it's just counting folks to help with how many people have how many reps in congress and Senate. While the long form was administered once a decade to a sample of households receiving the universal short-form census, the ACS is an ongoing survey of 3.5 million addresses annually (295,000 homes/month). [12] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Fertility.pdf. The American Community Survey (ACS), conducted continuously since the early 2000s, is an ongoing survey of just a portion of the population. Any illegal can purchase your number for any amount of money. I will post again if there is further activity. We didn't receive phone calls first, we had two visits at 7 p.m. from this lady with her little laptop. The government has no right to know this personal information and that she could leave. It is confined to determining the number of Representatives [in the House] and imposing direct Taxes among the several States. (Same woman who was no longer employed with the census). Isn't this harassment? They DO go away. The U.S. Census Bureau is suspending efforts to create neighborhood-level statistics on the citizenship and age of residents, using 2020 census data, in the latest rollback of Trump administration. Since my alleged representatives repeatedly respond to my complaints about their actions, with form letters explaining why they hear my views but plan to ignore them and do what they want to do instead, I hear the government wants my information and plan to do what I want to do instead. Why the hell should I tell the government all this business about me? Why am I being asked what my age and birthdate are? [26] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/MaritalStatusHistory.pdf. They can have my age, race, sex and opinion about corruption in government.
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